From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Feb 3 15:25: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D514E37B401; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from seattlefenix.net (seattlefenix.net [216.231.34.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E07343F9B; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:25:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roo@seattlefenix.net) Received: by seattlefenix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4928FB23A; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:19:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:19:44 -0800 From: Benjamin Krueger To: Robert Watson Cc: Benjamin Krueger , Rahul Siddharthan , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Message-ID: <20030203231944.GF27674@surreal.seattlefenix.net> Reply-To: Benjamin Krueger References: <20030203224911.GE27674@surreal.seattlefenix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Robert Watson (rwatson@freebsd.org) [030203 15:01]: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > > > > While your thoughts on how to improve the project are appreciated, blind > > > speculation isn't helpful for anyone. > > > > You're absolutely right. I'm glad Core is going to explain why a > > valuable contributor got the boot. There is no better way to to avoid > > rumour mongering and blind speculation. That, after all, can only serve > > to hurt the project. > > Do you really think publishing shopping lists of behavioral problems is > going to solve anything? At the moment, not explaining any events which may have occured seems to be hurting the project. This does little to convey a sense of stability or trust, and the secrecy is causing many to reconsider their participation in the project. At the very least, it is a matter of respect to the project community. Core has nothing to hide, and the project belongs to all involved. If the move to remove Dillon's commit privileges truly is beneficial to the project, then why is an explaination of this so difficult to share? > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects > robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories -- Benjamin Krueger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message