From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 24 02:13:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9001065672; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@seanmcollins.com) Received: from masakari.coreitpro.com (masakari.coreitpro.com [38.98.245.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03A48FC19; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from loki.lan (c-68-44-61-220.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.44.61.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by masakari.coreitpro.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8O214l6072181 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:01:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sean@seanmcollins.com) Message-Id: <9DE63F72-A43A-4704-85E6-A61F1C3CE70C@seanmcollins.com> From: Sean Collins To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:00:36 -0400 References: X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail d55 (v55, Leopard) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=HELO_LH_HOME,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on masakari.coreitpro.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:12:19 +0000 Cc: Robert Watson Subject: Re: Three cheers for the status quo, enough now? (was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:13:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I heartily agree with the sentiment that this discussion has yielded =20 no discernible value and has instead left some with bruised egos, and =20= I must say that the lack of _CODE_ is telling. Look, if you think Sendmail and BIND are indeed egregious and far too =20= bloated for your taste, please put your money where your mouth is and =20= release a patch implementing the desired functionality, or reduction =20 in functionality. I use Sendmail and BIND to put food on my table and =20= beer in my fridge, so naturally I'm going to be against any change in =20= the base. However, if I am given a nice and easy option at =20 installation, where BIND and Sendmail are installed as an extra, =20 similar to the WWW option in sysinstall, I'm not going to be opposed =20 to it. That's my two cents as FreeBSD user. Take it for what it's worth. Thank You, Sean Collins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkq60sQACgkQ9g9WSXiROTHOewCfVGu2bIcpdKWmAYZdr9uhw28K P2AAn0IYk61xEmDjVFR8VFSFf+qd+O0c =3D9lU2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----