From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:54:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greg.cex.ca (h24-207-26-100.dlt.dccnet.com [24.207.26.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90B5137B49E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 60874 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 18:54:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:54:16 -0800 From: Greg White To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org dns Message-ID: <20020330105415.A60561@greg.cex.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4>; from art@pilikia.net on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat Mar 03/30/02, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > What's up with the broken dns for freebsd.org? > > Mar 30 07:56:08 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=[216.136.204.119], reject=450 4.7.1 ... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for 216.136.204.119 > Mar 30 07:56:09 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: from=, size=3226, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[216.136.204.119] > > I've got a zillion entries like the above in my maillog starting from last nite... You actually defer mail delivery based on the availability of PTR records? This is, IMHO, a _spectacularly_ bad idea, and one of the reasons that this is so is stuff like this. Perhaps sendmail is doing this 'for' you by default (I stopped running sendmail years ago). I humbly suggest that you find a way to turn this off. > art@ns1.pilikia.net# whois freebsd.org > [snipping some of the useless whois output] > FREEBSD.ORG.IS.DAMN.ELITE.SO.IS.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG > FREEBSD.ORG > > To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the > of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up > with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record. > > ok authoratative ns is freebsd.org ... Umm...No. freebsd.org, the host is _not_ an authoritative server for freebsd.org, the zone*. Read the whois output more carefully. Whois has told you nothing thanks to the 31337 sk1llz of the folks at jimphillips.org. Not to mention the fact that the authoritative servers for the forward lookup zone 'freebsd.org' may or may not be the same servers authoritative for 119.204.136.216in-addr.arpa, the record you actually care about -- and in this case, they are not. Asking the freebsd.org servers will get you nowhere, unless they refer you somewhere else. :) A simple walk of the tree for 119.204.136.216.in-addr.arpa leads me to ns[12345].yahoo.com, all of which are lame for 204.136.216.in-addr.arpa, and refer back to the roots, which refer you to ARIN, which refer you back to yahoo, ad nauseam. Looks to me like the admins of ns[12345].yahoo.com need to fix their in-addr.arpa zone(s). *At least, not by name. Any ability I have to go farther in findout out depends on PTR records, which we don't got. :) -- Greg White To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message