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Date:      Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:02:03 +1100 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@acm.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r219700 - head/sys/x86/x86
Message-ID:  <20110325203713.K956@besplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <4D8BD180.1060600@bsdimp.com>
References:  <201103161644.p2GGi8ug098283@svn.freebsd.org> <20110317200156.GB65858@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <201103171706.12993.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <201103230834.19151.jhb@freebsd.org> <4D8BD180.1060600@bsdimp.com>

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On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Warner Losh wrote:

> On 03/23/2011 06:34, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2011 5:06:09 pm Jung-uk Kim wrote:
>>> I really hate the idea of adjusting timecounter frequency from
>>> userland.  I guess "use ntpd(8)" is not a good answer for some
>>> people. :-(
>> Actually, that doesn't work well if your timecounter frequency is off by a
>> lot.  Having the timecounter frequency accurate improves the accuracy of
>> things like ntpd and ptpd.
>
> ntpd requires that the time counter be within 128ppm of true.  If the time 
> counter guess is off by more than that, you lose: ntpd won't work.

Is ntpd really that broken?  What does it do if the drift file has the
correct compensation to within 128 ppm?

I use an old version of ntpd in which I've observed a positive feedback
loop when -x is used to prevent steps and the slew wants to be more than
128 ppm due to a transient.

Bruce



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