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Date:      Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:59:24 -0300
From:      "Augusto Bott" <augusto.bott@via-rs.net>
To:        <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: hostname on standalone machine
Message-ID:  <00fe01bff2e9$97676260$0201040a@ig>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.05.10007211234350.26378-100000@cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU>

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Hi Andrew!

And gurus, forgive me if I'm saying somethig wrong....

> connection to the outside world is via a dialup PPP link with dynamic IP
> address. I have not much knowledge of networking.

Once I had a LAN which each one of the machines could dial, but I arranged
things up so the
freebsd box would dial, nice and easy. It doesn't really matter your LAN ip,
because the PPP
interface sets one for you, and fixes it's routing tables, so, if you 're on
a single machine which it's
only connection is a ppp dial-up link, you are praticly done.

> I am not sure as to what problems may be caused by my selecting a
> hostname, which, as far as the internet is concerned, does not "really"
> exist (i.e. is not on any DNS).

And, to the outside world, doesn't really matters (depending on your ISP,
you may have to "belong"
(set yours) to their domain). BTW, are you running your own DNS (may be
caching lookups?)?

> 1.  edit "/etc/rc.conf" to set my hostname to, say, "araby.an.org.au".
Is this domain from your ISP? Even if it isn't, MAY be no problem...

> 2.  edit host.conf to be
>     hosts
>     bind

meaning, it it'll first look on the local table (hosts) , then ask the
nameserver.
Before item number 4, you may have forgotten about /etc/resolv.conf
I don't quite remember mine or have fBSD reachable at this time to quote
to you, anyways:
nameserver 200.250.46.130             # your ISP's name server IP
nameserver 127.0.0.1                        # if you run your own... etc...
domain        some.domain.au            # will look for completion, read
bellow!!!

You may have more than one nameserver, list them in your preferred lookup
order...
It's good to tell your machine an external nameserver, otherwise you'll
probably won't
resolve names... (duh...)

What the hell is completion: when you are in a lan, and your machine KNOWS
you are in
such domain, like, "an.org.au", you type "www" in your browser, he asks you
system
whose IP address it is, it does not find any match, looking in the order
told him in host.conf
and the way told in resolv.conf. It knows it's domain so it tries to match
www + an.org.au,
got that?

> 3.  edit hosts to read (from the handbook)
>     127.0.0.1   localhost.an.org.au   localhost
>     127.0.0.1   localhost.an.org.au.
>                                   ^
>     Why the need for the repetition, and why the dot?

You may have aliases, what's the problem? The dot? Well, the dot means your
typing an
"absolute name", which means: the box will not try "Completion" (mencioned
above)
>
>     10.0.0.1    araby.an.org.au       araby
>     10.0.0.1    araby.an.org.au.
>     ^^^^^^^^
>     What does this IP address mean? Wouldn't it be better to assign
>     these names to 127.0.0.1 also, so that network data doesn't go

The 10.x.x.x is a private network, reserved for nets non connected to the
internet...
(if I'm not completely wrong) which means, your router won't send them
trough the serial line

>     through the serial link unnecessarily? (because the info in "hosts"
>     is used only for my machine to send data out to he world, right?)

Wrong, the information contained in the "hosts" file is for your machine
only.
It's intended for fast machine lookups on a rather stable ip environment
(and small, because you have to keep up to date on EVERY machine on
your net, otherwise some will resolve names to wrong addresses...)

> And from my understanding, that's it, provided PPP is set up correctly?

Setting up PPP is another issue...

Good luck!

[[]]s Augusto Bott



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