From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 2:22:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31A437B417 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from roelxp (213-84-241-73.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.241.73]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g11ALwPE047056; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004501c1ab0a$48e95b40$9b00000a@roelxp> From: "Roel Kroes" To: "Shawn Halloran" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same = feeling. So, you are not alone out there. When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find = all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like = Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh* Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool = for all kinds of OS'es.=20 Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed = webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes = in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you = administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all = from your web browser.=20 I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you = say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. = Then this is what you want. Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/=20 Good luck. R. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shawn Halloran=20 To: Matt H ; Christian Nelson=20 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism. I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this = week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know = whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know = I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've = experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody = gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire = to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of = the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, = c) no licensing restrictions. Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this = project with a lot of optimism. =20 Shawn H ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt H Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM To: Christian Nelson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 "Christian Nelson" wrote: > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let = me > know if I'm doing this totally wrong. yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not = newbies newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a = newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI = do see plenty of mis-directed questions... > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I = cannot > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the = router > fine and it worked great. Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a = great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can = be insecure (badder thing) the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or = tcpserver I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace = sendmail with qmail you might get different and possibly better advice from = freebsd-questions though M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too = and I had=20 the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there.
 
When i finally got it installed (after lots of = coffee), i=20 had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is = configured. Like=20 Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*
 
Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a = webbased=20 configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es.
Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a=20 breeze after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my = browser=20 and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something = from it.=20 Webmin lets you administer Apache, MySQL, = FTP=20 services, users, mailinglists and more all from your web browser.=20
 
I can also think of lots of = disadvantages for=20 using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web = services to=20 small businesses. Then this is what you want.
 
Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/ 
 
Good luck.
 
R.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shawn=20 Halloran
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 = 10:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: Question Regarding = IENTD

Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.
 
 
Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach = this=20 project with a lot of optimism.  
 
Shawn H
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt H
Sent: Friday, February 01, = 2002 1:44=20 AM
To: Christian Nelson
Cc: = freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Question = Regarding=20 IENTD
 
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800
"Christian = Nelson"=20 <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi..I'm new to the = mailing=20 lists.so give me a break here..and let me
> know if I'm doing = this=20 totally wrong.

yeah, you should direct questions to = freebsd-questions=20 and not newbies

newbies is for, well, people to discuss what = it's=20 like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here = regarding=20 newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed = questions...


>=20 (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I=20 cannot
> get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was = behind the=20 router
> fine and it worked great.

Once they dig around = a bit=20 most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. = Apparently it=20 leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder = thing)

the=20 alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or=20 tcpserver

I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed = when you=20 replace sendmail with qmail

you might get different and = possibly=20 better advice from freebsd-questions though

M

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