From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 03:14:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A134DC; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE1F1198F; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id ey11so13499780pad.7 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=oIfc7aJO58TuzASWK0RQ4jy+9Yhk4gChdAMQ5RMR7Rc=; b=zycZ+nOYpgKuCBnxLKkP+KaeaJuCNKVCzUGMDEYZtQ1+xXumgi5Bx6xoKozWutA4Fo iMVMVsXZwbJCykgRRUnT9azHo1jlQIy18HdDw54rrCQhKql75/QuhVirCen+zmmQXMHp oaWTS34WsjfzuB2047VZqsMCJDBbo6/8wYq1KwALwdL9LtQ5bZebiXkYQpr2pcvPuTob Bg2nAsepY9LCYL5KAtQAK7x+vSQn6LKlLE4D6L32KuT8By+zKL+YfwURA0YS8FfNQ/+R z+Y0EgZ1e7UQFUWX4z8L+5D7NyA7cGW/YLsQO++BbLegHrbkwfE6YK4tA50b7jyKvc36 ISgQ== X-Received: by 10.68.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr560415pbb.160.1409627664154; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.5] (c-98-247-240-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [98.247.240.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qa2sm3387221pdb.38.2014.09.01.20.14.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: yaneurabeya@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:14:22 -0700 Message-Id: <8E432427-B3A8-4BF7-B54F-DE9B8CA268DC@gmail.com> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> To: Andrew Berg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:14:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Sep 1, 2014, at 20:02, Andrew Berg = wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for >> many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't >> been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? = broke >> shit... (badly) ... > There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a = notice that > things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an > explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach = more > people, but of course, that is easier said than done. > BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere = users the > most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and = pure ports > users very little. >=20 >>> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you = would be >>> doing a new install with 9.2. >>>=20 >> Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still >> install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I = checked, >> on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) > Fair enough. >=20 >> (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not >> work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this >> date and things *might* not work as expected' > No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if = there are > new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate = to other > people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running = unsupported > versions of software should not have any expectation that the = ecosystem around > it will be accommodating. > The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything = works on > supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for = anyone to put > effort into making it work on EOL versions. Installing pkgng on FreeBSD 7.x isn=92t impossible, but it does = require jumping through some hoops because xz not being present until = 8.x. These directions aren=92t complete (welcome to feedback if anyone = runs into issues), but they=92re a start: = https://github.com/yaneurabeya/scratch/blob/master/docs/cheatsheets/freebs= d . Cheers! -Garrett --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJUBTYOAAoJEMZr5QU6S73eHOQIALDlJRDBWsF358dhExXJBs5L X3+x6WrobmZKCaJvZ1E+hftAjebU6pj+PRphgBeKy5l17f6xLKezDI8R3cRSr3rD zpXt74/7j/UXU0rITlft6toMkrFsGRWdmAw1q06Bb+T+gkz6hGi228WcGxD+dePe zXBKpN1VBzueCU+ElFo3Fk4hnNIpcFeu/3NW3eH9zmVnU4+u0EGKLl9rQFiMOi4A aQXw4XQ+kF+BsiSzkUwPj8PRApZkk4KPmWzKJtUX5PhuqycPwpjaGh4qumsxCNuq LFXav5jgEdiYCJL1SCIJm8FbIrf0M1xlTpV43r0+kuTTCm2pNexlF41j80kvIUk= =MBj1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6--