From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 09:08:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B5716A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 82-41-27-158.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk (82-41-27-158.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.27.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3486D43D31 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:08:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@mux.org.uk) Received: from mux.org.uk (spatula.flat [192.168.0.2]) by myriad.flat (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001E4C5; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:56:19 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <40436E04.9000706@mux.org.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:08:20 +0000 From: Andrew Boothman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040228 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20040301032856.GA10110@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: SPAM/virii apparently from freeBSD addresses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 17:08:22 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >>>Somewhere out there there is a ?Virus?/?Hacker?/?Spammer? >>>getting really annoying.. >> >>Yeah, but what do you expect anyone to do about it? > > > Swen and MyDoom are easy to detect and reject at the SMTP stage. The > fact that our mail servers don't do this is a PITA, as it forces list > subscribers to accept them as well (if you reject list mail because it > contains a virus, Mailman disables your subscription). You shoudn't reject email because it contains Swen or MyDoom anyway, all you'll do is generate a bounce message to someone who never sent you the infected mail in the first place - becuase the SMTP envelope addresses are forged. I believe the correct thing to do is to accept in and silently drop it.