From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 14 20:23:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C628F1065679 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1978FC1D for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1855446ewy.43 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:23:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bcac9DJ1wxMP9YqBKu5B2P+7mQJNCzsBGcfMrJoPkm0=; b=d9f2i+pPky7eLh9EBQUcmGTaVFzF1jB9XOlTvkRO8zHghliY+W1BG49a+XlewT8Df8 88S8LWmyNzVfyvUWAOwvvZP7h+rza6eIWhnnG8w0mwqJz6KIC1WcTh9EJpogUVWirYJm QEmZWKv82sHpBS4QIc4jPLoRyfwt3mLbhk7CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wMyja4u7gtDwEwGVSF+asCbL9OipWAlKojO2IcbcMmY2sVF1ZhWJlBe2y+djNwbLvV AJzlR2L29EdZqvOi8B2GFebWkBjcdRxNUkPkpFbWhjyo+u5xZ89cuZiYD8cBZXfyqJ2D yYBjTUehOsDuG/IofBN/f1eAYlOSPlYz0zcmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.56.7 with SMTP id e7mr3212726eba.62.1242332594306; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:23:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <717ed9590905130803x35a786b6uec0256cf855adf8f@mail.gmail.com> <20090513165552.GA47498@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: To: Saifi Khan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, korikov.zk@gmail.com, Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:16 -0000 2009/5/14 Saifi Khan : > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Saifi Khan" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM >> To: "Sean Cavanaugh" >> Cc: ; ; >> Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list >> >> > On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based O= S). >> > >> > Not true. >> > >> > Please see >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy >> > >> > >> > thanks >> > Saifi. >> > >> >> based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that >> GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Li= nux is >> that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream me= dia. > > > based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that > > when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified: > > =A0 =A0Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you > =A0 =A0actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way > =A0 =A0that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" > =A0 =A0or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own > =A0 =A0distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but > =A0 =A0calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" i > =A0 =A0I think is just ridiculous. > > (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh > > > Hope this helps. > > thanks > Saifi. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > [chris@amnesiac]~% echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd" | wc -c 38 [chris@amnesiac]~% echo http://is.gd/zGZh |wc -c 18 Seriously, please don't obfuscate URLs when there's no real need to. Those of us who are careful prefer not to follow strange looking links; it's counterproductive. is.gd and tinyurl are great if you have to type in monstrous links like http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/10/13/Using-Vista_2700_s-Boot-Manage= r-to-Boot-Linux-and-Dual-Booting-with-BitLocker-Protection-with-TPM-Support= .aspx However, there's no need when it's either copy-paste or click, and just confuses things. Also, Torvalds talks about stuff like that far too much. It's only fair to call it GNU/Linux; it IS GNU on top of the Linux kernel. It's like calling Mac OS X Darwin, or NeXTSTEP Mach (or worse, FreeBSD!). Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?