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Date:      Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:29:41 +0200
From:      Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
To:        Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dependency explosions
Message-ID:  <57F25D45.5000004@quip.cz>
In-Reply-To: <19d248ae-8919-fdc9-84e8-ff90ae761e6f@gjunka.com>
References:  <2df71272-7b98-ad73-650a-3ec70beb71d5@freebsd.org> <d14d1aaf-5bdb-2e09-2892-2e32c4db0810@FreeBSD.org> <19d248ae-8919-fdc9-84e8-ff90ae761e6f@gjunka.com>

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Grzegorz Junka wrote on 10/03/2016 15:11:
>
> On 03/10/2016 12:14, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit :
>>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages.
>> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running
>> make config.
>>
>>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in
>>> as a dependency, as
>>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bells
>>> and whistles.
>> The bare minimum will never be the default.  The default is what will
>> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box.
>>
>
> Shouldn't all packages default to noX dependencies? If I am not mistaken
> FreeBSD is predominantly a server-side system, with X running only
> occasionally (I am running X but I compile all packages with poudriere).

I agree. Many ports have X and -nox11 (like ImageMagick-nox11 or 
open-vm-tools-nox11) but there are still some without nox11 variant.

But X11 is not the only one dependency problem.
I think that dependency changes should be better tracked and examined 
before commit changes to ports tree.

Miroslav Lachman



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