From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 27 20:58:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC5816B65E for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 20:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahebert@pubnix.net) Received: from mail.pubnix.net (Mail.pubnix.net [192.172.250.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F90743D46 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 20:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahebert@pubnix.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (aal.pubnix.net [64.235.216.13]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.pubnix.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4RKto22025409 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 16:55:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ahebert@pubnix.net) Message-ID: <4478BCD6.9060304@pubnix.net> Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 16:55:50 -0400 From: Alain Hebert Organization: PubNIX, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20060527024407.GA2525@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4477C401.2080307@rogers.com> <20060527161923.N38076@fledge.watson.org> <4478B679.9060606@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <4478B679.9060606@samsco.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [RFC] Removal of Fortran from the base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ahebert@pubnix.net List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 20:59:11 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Andrew R. Reiter wrote: > >> On Fri, 26 May 2006, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> >> :Steve Kargl wrote: >> :> In a recent email to freebsd-current, >> :> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-May/063435.html >> :> Alexander Kabaev stated that the import of GCC 4.1.1 is coming soon. >> :> :> I propose that Fortran support in the base system be removed >> :> when GCC 4.1.1 is imported. >> :> : >> :Agreed, who the hell still uses Fortran? >> : >> >> Scripps Institute of Oceanography > > Obviously a bunch of amateurs who don't really know what they want > or what they are doing. > > Scott (We cannot expect everybody to be adult enought to get how to use this mailing-list.) ----- The obvious reason was stated before that gFortran was not bug free and, in view of the importer, it would be best to have gFortran in ports until the fortran community voice their opinion about which implementations is the best one. Another point was that gFortran was not needed in the FreeBSD base, but the package should be included in Disk1 to ease minimal install for the fortran community. Also, if there is no maintainer for a port, it ease the decision about which one to keep without having to get in a language/religion war. It seems fair to me. ----- Attitude and drama can be found on TV, lets focus on making BSD the best solution for all os us. -- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. P.O. Box 175 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 5T7 tel 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514-990-9443