From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 11:51:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9BF37B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail8.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1586743F93 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6904 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 18:51:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2003 18:51:45 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HIpWGI026431; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:51:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030717164102.GA47198@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:51:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:51:47 -0000 On 17-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:17:00AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >> whatever it is, certainly the purpose is not to show how good >> a sysadmin is in using a knife's blade as a screwdriver and a fork >> and a spoon. Heck, even swiss army knives have these extra >> tools. >> >> I think that if something in /rescue can make the task faster >> and less error prone, removing it to save 10-50k of disk space >> would be a big mistake. > > You must not have seen my other email that listed other things than just > disk space. If I did need to get to the Internet to get bits, what does > ipfw do for me that "sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0" doesn't? This doesn't handle ipfilter. You've conveniently ignored that point it seems. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/