From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 10 17: 6: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D99D37BB6A for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:06:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02153; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003110106.RAA02153@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-20000307-CURRENT kern.flp keyboard probe questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:58:16 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:06:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >Isn't there a better way to identify a serial console? > > > > I don't understand. What do you expect the boot loader to do? > > I'm not sure, that's why I asked the list :-) Really, what I was asking > is if there is a better way to detect a serial console.. Rather than the > current logic of "If there is no keyboard, there must be a serial > console". I can think of N reasons why a box would have no keyboard > attached, besides having a serial console. Actually, there aren't very many. If you don't have a keyboard, you need a console of some sort. If you don't have a console, you've made enough modifications to be undaunted by removing two bytes from /boot.config. > I know very little about serial consoles, but can they not be probed > somehow to determine their existence? If that's not possible, at least, > what I'm suggesting below still sounds reasonable. No, they can't be probed, and no, if you think about it for a minute, what you're proposing is entirely nonsensical. Note also that the probe-for-keyboard feature is only used on the installation media; it's not the default for system behaviour (yet). -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message