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Date:      Thu, 04 Jan 2001 07:34:15 -0500
From:      mikel <mikel@ocsinternet.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@leonini.ch
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: system management
Message-ID:  <3A546DC7.7302FBEF@ocsinternet.com>
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Greetings Leo,

    First off I am by no mean an expert on this but the short answer to
your qustions is YES. Now the long answer: as with any system you have to
invest a certain amount of time in order to reap it's true benefits. My
attachment to fBSD has only grown through continued use over the years.
The tasks you've outlined previously are common and you find the ports
collection a refreashing change from rpm's and deb's...that is not to say
the *BSD's don't have a prepackeged system it's just that in many cases
because of local needs it is easier to use the ports especially for
installing something like apache /w mod_php.

    Welcome aboard, enjoy...

Cheers,
Mikel

freebsd-questions@leonini.ch wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm an "old" user of Linux and I'm going to replace Linux by
> OpenBSD and/or FreeBSD. I used Linux since two year on web
> servers, and I can said that i haven't had real problem
> reguarding performance and stability. So i could continue to
> use it, but I'm not very satisfyed by the facility of
> maintenance.
>
> The problem with Linux is:
>
> 1_ There is lot of way to manage software (rpm, deb, source, ...)
> and if you use different software manager (like combining source
> and
> rpm), you have inconsistency in the rpm database. For my server I
> generally used source, because the applications I compiled (like
> appache-PHP) require a lot of parameters that an rpm can't hold.
> And with rpm, you can't easily have multiple instance of a
> programm
> running.
>
> 2_ There is not a simple way to make your system completly
> evolving. I mean that is quite impossible to pass from a release X to
> a release Y of a distribution with package update only. The main
> problem is to update the glibc.
>
> I hope to find in BSD, a way to manage my system more easily. I
> think the ports and the CVS can help in that, more than packet
> managers in Linux distro.
>
> But, can we really in FreeBSD update a 3.X release to an 4.X or 5.X
> doing a CVSUP and then a make world ?
>
> Do you really use "make world" on server, taking the risk of a
> potential problem ?
>
> There is a way to configure the system (using a cron job) to get via
> CVS the latest release of all the software already installed (and
> only the software already installed), and if there is new release to
> "make install" them ? (My dream is to do that automatically, like
> that I don't need to manually update the system, when there is a
> urgent vulnerability, for example.)
>
> Thanks in advance and excuse me for my shit english :)
>
> Leo
>
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