Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:49:35 -0600 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: wayne@crb-web.com Cc: FreeBSD Hackers List <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Developer assessment (was Re: A bike shed ...) Message-ID: <37F920EF.79B9EFE2@softweyr.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910032222510.8244-100000@crb.crb-web.com>
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Wayne Cuddy and Mike Smith crossed swords thusly:
Wayne:
> Mike:
> > Wayne:
> > > Mike:
> > > > So, regardless of whether you've asked a question or not, you need to
> > > > understand that the onus rests solely on yourself to pursue the answer.
> > > > They're all there in the code, where everyone else that you're asking
> > > > has already found them.
> > >
> > > This is absolutely correct and in many cases the most inefficient way to go.
> >
> > Crap. It's the most _efficient_ way in terms of return on effort
> > invested.
Wayne, you seem to be forgetting that you're working with volunteers.
It may very well be that there are 6 or 7 people out there who know the answer
to your question right off the top of their heads, can point you to the exact
line of code in question, and describe how to do what you want. If they're too
busy with their days jobs, families, other FreeBSD work, or just lying on their
backs counting stars, it is still not your place to DEMAND answers from them.
You can ask politely, or you can just go away. If you don't get an answer,
it might be because everyone was busy, nobody is really familiar with that
part of the code, or because nobody is interested in helping at this time.
The efficieny doesn't matter, you are ASKING A FAVOR. Phrase your questions
appropriately. Do you approach doctor when sick and demand that he make
you better NOW or you're going to tell the entire world what a moron he
is? I certainly don't.
> > What irritates me the most is that you and others in your position
> > won't accept the fact that things are complicated. Oh no, it has to be
> > these evil nasty people that don't want you to learn. Yeah. That's it.
>
> You sure know a lot about me! Are you making these assumptions about
> me and "others like me" based on what I am posting now or previous postings?
> I am really sorry you are irritated.
And you think you are 100% unique.
Oddly enough, so did each and every one of your hundreds of predecessors. ;^)
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/
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