From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 18 10:56:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F3516A47A for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929DA43D45 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:55:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IAto93026362; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5IAtmuo004975; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:55:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Poul-Henning Kamp In-Reply-To: <74895.1150621318@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20060618065504.U94454@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <74895.1150621318@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Divacky Roman , current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: removed COMPAT_43 from GENERIC (and other configs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:56:00 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20060618084016.GA44510@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>, Divacky Roman writes: > >> well.. you can never be sure but my point stands still - COMPAT_43TTY is >> basically a bunch of tty-related ioctls so I dont see why apps like (gtar which >> doesnt touch tty at all) should fail.. > > I guess you didn't get the memo (attached). > > Poul-Henning > > > Welcome to the wonderful world of AutoCrap[tm]! > > By applying an ill-advised methodology developed by inferior minds > in the 1980ies to deal with incompatible operating systems from > narrowminded vendors, AutoCrap[tm] is guaranteed to turn even > the most portable source code into a unportable mess. > > AutoCrap[tm] employs a plethora of checks for features no longer > in existence on any running operating system, even if your software > package does not actually come close to using that feature. > > By turning all AutoCrap[tm] infected sortware packages into totally > unreadable messes of #ifdefs, AutoCrap[tm] will seem like the only > feasible way to write portable code. > > Upon seeing AutoCrap[tm] for the first time 99 out of 100 users > or programmers out there will cry out in despair "This portability > thing looks SOOO hard, thank goodness for AutoCrap[tm]" > > AutoCrap[tm] sports an infection of options which nobody, including > the AutoCrap[tm] developers, can give any good reason why you > might want to apply, but even so, these options provide the 100% > sure defence: "You just need to set the right options" against > any people in a fit of insight or even actually wisdom might > claim that AutoCrap[tm] actually decreases software portability. > > > AutoCrap[tm] -- because we otherwise anybody could port software! Very funny! Now tell us how you feel about libtool. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection