From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 25 12: 9: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (bachue.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394837BB5D for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from giffunip@asme.org) Received: from asme.org ([216.252.137.194]) by bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAAF37 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: <38B6D3C2.ED4DA57D@asme.org> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:10:58 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Reply-To: pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD minimal install... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Thompson wrote: > ... > > 2) Disabling or not installing certain important parts of the base system, > like (as you suggested) gcc, IMO, is NOT a good idea. If I go to fix or > troubleshoot a broken FreeBSD system, I want to know what I'm working > with. Imagine the flooding to freebsd-questions: > I think it's an excellent idea. Commercial distributors SCO, IBM and SUN don't include any compiler in their distributions and I don't hear such complains from the users. (Imagine the antimonopoly lawsuit if Microsoft bundles VC++ with Windows :-) Come on, what type of hacker would attempt to "fix" a system if he doesn't know how to install a compiler ? Unbundling gcc would also give a clearer impression that we do not claim to have a "gcc only" OS. I would sincerely like to be able to build kernel with commercial compilers. The problem has always been in our packaging system, from past discussions I understand we will someday manage all the distribution in packages and it will be much easier to build custom installations. cheers, Pedro. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message