From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Apr 4 17:34: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FC737B9CD for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:33:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00461 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:37:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id CAA24720 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB29537BBC3 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA37809; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:32:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:32:57 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Terry Lambert Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Union mount of fdesc on top of /dev Message-ID: <20000404193257.N27486@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <200004042335.QAA12839@usr05.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i In-Reply-To: <200004042335.QAA12839@usr05.primenet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, April 04, 2000, Terry Lambert wrote: > I expect /dev/std* to eventually be recognized as "not useful" and > find its butt deprecated in favor of "/dev/fd{0-2}". At this point, I believe that stdxxx may just be left alone as well as tty. Currently fdesc mounts normally on a /dev/fd directory. However, I don't think they will last forever, but will probably be supported up to a certain date before which "everybody has to MAKEDEV". I also do not think /dev/stdxxx will be considered "not useful", but they, as separate device nodes, are certainly "bloat" considering that fdesc can be used for this and is much simpler, so why not keep the /dev files and lose the kernel /dev/std* code (and put in the fdesc code). This also allows us to yank out the /dev/fd/ static node support and replace them with more useful synthetic FS nodes. Does anybody else really disagree? -- |Chris Costello |Computers are a more fun way to do the same |work you'd have to do without them. `------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message