From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 13:06:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77F78EB for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27F962532 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 13:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r99D6Unt079830; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:06:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r99D6UqE079829; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:06:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:06:30 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to installworld after successful buildworld and buildkernel Message-ID: <20131009130630.GB71891@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <3F.9A.16944.166A3525@cdptpa-oedge02> <20131008141501.GA69028@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <28.45.16944.64B74525@cdptpa-oedge02> <20131008214809.GC69269@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <44.C1.16944.5E6C4525@cdptpa-oedge02> <20131009055213.GM56872@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131009055213.GM56872@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:06:36 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:52:13PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Thomas Mueller wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:00 +0000: > > > > But where is DB_FROM_SRC documented? I never saw it anywhere. UPD= ATING file needs to be updated for installing FreeBSD on a partition where = there is no OS installed. > >=20 > > > It's documented in Makefile.inc1 where the less commonly used options > > > are documented. It should be documented in the Handbook along with t= he > > > process of cross installation and image creation. > >=20 > > > I disagree that UPDATING should document the process of installing to > > > other locations. That would be a distraction from it's purpose of > > > letting users update their systems. It's already far too complicated. > >=20 > > -- Brooks > >=20 > > UPDATING file has a section on cross-installing current into a separate= partition. > >=20 > > This part ought to be complete, including DB_FROM_SRC, rather than leav= ing a user lost at sea when a new user (unbound) sneaks in. > >=20 > > UPDATING documented when user auditdistd was added, so why not for unbo= und? >=20 > How does this look: > Index: UPDATING > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --- UPDATING (revision 256024) > +++ UPDATING (working copy) > @@ -1899,7 +1899,7 @@ > make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > > - make installworld DESTDIR=3D${CURRENT_ROOT} > + make installworld DESTDIR=3D${CURRENT_ROOT} -DDB_FROM_SRC > make distribution DESTDIR=3D${CURRENT_ROOT} # if newfs'd > make installkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE DESTDIR=3D${CURREN= T_ROOT} > cp /etc/fstab ${CURRENT_ROOT}/etc/fstab # if n= ewfs'd >=20 >=20 > I tested distribution and it appears not to need it. Distribution could easily need it in the future so I'd suggest adding in there as well. If nothing else, if building on a box with a highly non-standard /etc/passwd or /etc/group the results could be bizzare and inconsistant if -DDB_FROM_SRC is not used in both cases. installkernel is probably safe since people who renumber root/wheel will get what they deserve if they don't audit all of the make infrastructure. -- Brooks P.S. This probably shouldn't be documented because it is dangerous in some situations: but for administrators who keep their passwd and group files entirely in sync with FreeBSD's you can skip the whole mergemaster -p annoyance by specifying DESTDIR=3D/ -DDB_FROM_SRC. --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFSVVTVXY6L6fI4GtQRAnYEAKC10EJEHdA8tg52t27mzzZELsMK+QCbBu8H phcxRxcAuYm6Y3G+cPo+u78= =xalx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP--