From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 19 15:51:18 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EF333092D for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49pNZY5NQTz4Kpv for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from capuchin.riseup.net (capuchin-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49pNZW4h9tzFf3C for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:51:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1592581875; bh=lR7i7GVt7+6pqglIkTR2DQ44HAJPGbCOXnrT1OAzQZ8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=GKJFKoYkgHzfyWFai2OAT/K7+Ggq8fah8vkLaEtU9q+wZPAVsWBvAMphKm7xI7UVh BYJOuevIuNkAeTD46ZqbaRcGacTXY28lWUf/AYWmUqXpQxWC+G+rI7hn/frphLe/uR 8ijwHGkJExHzoX4ccC03DBJfEmDmxTAF5bCQpsx0= X-Riseup-User-ID: DA380C8A6192D7889FCC37592E2F13745A9D045EECDE03BC62C9D4B6B5CB453C Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by capuchin.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49pNZW0B9gz8wBk for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 17:51:14 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MUAs we use Message-ID: <20200619175114.57c095a3@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200619105314.GI89652@trajan.stk.cx> References: <20200611175122.0e09b89e@archlinux> <20200619051347.GG89652@trajan.stk.cx> <20200619085531.30489733@archlinux> <20200619094146.GH89652@trajan.stk.cx> <20200619113347.605acd4f88b08b063b8286d0@sohara.org> <20200619105314.GI89652@trajan.stk.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49pNZY5NQTz4Kpv X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=GKJFKoYk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.77 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.17)[-0.171]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.003]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:51:18 -0000 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:53:14 +0200, Arne Steinkamm wrote: >I just wanted to express how unhappy I'm with responses like that from >Ralf Mardorf... Always assume good faith, if somebody does point out pitfalls. If you don't care and are unhappy to learn from kistakes, then follow your own advice and "Just delete my" "email and be happy". For me a good reason to mention those pitfalls is to ensure that other subscribers don't miss, that your statistic is not a list of the "MUAs we use". Keep in mind that this month a subscriber did ask what MUA we do suggest. Ignoring much used MUAs doesn't fit the subject.