From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Dec 17 11: 7:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hydrologue.com (adsl-63-194-243-48.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.243.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC05F37B770 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bradym@localhost) by mail.hydrologue.com (8.10.1/8.10.0.Beta6) id fBI0E8n31120 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:14:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:14:08 -0800 From: Brady Montz To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com> References: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com>; from bradym@balestra.org on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0800, Brady Montz wrote: > Richard Nyberg writes: > > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:59:13AM +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > > I am experiencing the same crashes on my new machine (ATA100 IDE > > > drive): they appeared when I noticed that I had forgotten to use > > > soft-updates. After I have turned them on, I experienced the first > > > crash in 15 minutes. Then I get one every two days, when doing > > > heavy disk IOs. I got a crash 10 minutes ago when the machine was > > > unattended though (and not doing important disk IOs), and could > > > see a "panic" message on the console. Unfortunately, I hadn't > > > enough free space in /var/crash to save the kernel. > > > > > > Do you people use soft-updates? From my experience on this > > > problem, I assume that either soft-updates or the ATA driver may > > > be causing those spontanous reboots. > > > > Yes I use soft-updates. The peculiar thing aboout my crash though is that > > there was no panic; the machine just froze and the screen went blank, so > > maybe I was hit by a different problem. > > > > -Richard > > Yeah, I'm using soft updates too. My crashes are generally the same as > Richards - no panic, just a freeze. Except my screen doesn't go blank. Here's an update ... I'm fairly certain there's a kernel bug at work here. Last night I rebooted to linux (which is on the same disk), and ran batch compiles all night long without any troubles. In comparision, I can't compile more than an hour at a time with BSD 4.4 before it crashes. Again, I ran memtest86 and it didn't find any memory errors, and I'm not seeing any file system corruption, just hangs and reboots. I am running the latest 4.4-stable. The other day I went back to 4.4-release and that didn't help. I've tried both with and without softupdates. The crashes seem to happen most often when accessing stuff from all over the filesystem, such as during a large "make clean", or most reliably, with "portsdb -Uu". I am tiring of this. Someone else on this thread mentioned that their 5.0 machine is doing fine. In what shape is that and how much effort is it to move a 4.4 machine to 5.0? -- Brady Montz bradym@balestra.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message