From nobody Thu Dec 2 00:38:55 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9667818BEEE0 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 00:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo@bruelltuete.com) Received: from email.jo-t.de (seppel.jo-t.de [45.132.244.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J4HCN4G5wz3Qkj for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 00:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo@bruelltuete.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=bruelltuete.com; s=bruelltuete18a; t=1638405568; bh=voGi7DQMApNQnF+hxzu6abQvQEDQSy9gW6DAr8noeDs=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:From:Subject:To:References:From; b=JAgkaQBYSQ50NWzLbYoM3UbwBGYmCMiKJRWJRpJNyqv7BvKIMiyE18ioRUAIgU4Qp XaDjgLacWGOSIHHs7SUamv7UfE3UWeLUfrqBPgtKeXPyHhLQUaHgt4MLV55l5FjJic LE/peEoizDi+zgaWPYBQHoywtHvhyQfFgYGukfogQOvQ35CvLg+9CNj+73cbjMr9sx Ax392GAirdYyymBG1lLmXqUequT9WN5gtNehaBgDUfhFX94R8w2uHotR9ONLcdxmY+ B8rH90MYIuxNAOof6fQP+j6OtLOX5BVPaNVX8LsNSTQy9cLeKuqYlXqchX+MDiAwQK 7ArQ64i9inGiA== Message-ID: <01e739f7-ccb2-c59f-9843-9d5214032b77@bruelltuete.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 00:38:55 +0000 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Johannes Totz Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <20211128220732.GA81140@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20211129003635.GA81568@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J4HCN4G5wz3Qkj X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bruelltuete.com header.s=bruelltuete18a header.b=JAgkaQBY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bruelltuete.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jo@bruelltuete.com designates 45.132.244.126 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jo@bruelltuete.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.86 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.891]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bruelltuete.com:s=bruelltuete18a]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.974]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bruelltuete.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bruelltuete.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:45.132.244.0/22, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 29/11/2021 03:17, Ed Maste wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 19:37, Steve Kargl > wrote: >> >> It's certainly not the latest and greatest, >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz (1995.04-MHz K8-class CPU) > > If you're content to use a compiler from a package you can save a lot > of time by building with `CROSS_TOOLCHAIN=llvm13` and > `WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN=yes`. Or, instead of WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN perhaps > `WITHOUT_CLANG=yes`, `WITHOUT_LLD=yes` and `WITHOUT_LLDB=yes`. (re-send to list, sorry) Can we disconnect the compiler optimisation flag for base and clang? I don't need the compiler to be build with -O2 but I want the resulting base system to have optimisations enabled. Right now, looks like both get -O2 and a lot of time is spent on optimising the compiler (for no good reason).