From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 2 16:26:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC41516A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:26:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hellmouth4.gatech.edu (hellmouth4.gatech.edu [130.207.165.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4740E43D54 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gte990t@mail.gatech.edu) Received: from hellmouth4.gatech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hellmouth4.gatech.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id C68CDA750; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:26:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gte990t@mail.gatech.edu) Received: from mailprx1.gatech.edu (mailprx1.prism.gatech.edu [130.207.171.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (verified OK)) by hellmouth4.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9A9A4F7; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:26:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gte990t@mail.gatech.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (r58h96.res.gatech.edu [128.61.58.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (sasl: method=PLAIN, username=gte990t, sender=n/a) by mailprx1.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69BB3A601; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:26:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gte990t@mail.gatech.edu) From: Jason Harmening To: Alex Dupre Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:45:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200411020143.34251.gte990t@mail.gatech.edu> <418792ED.8010700@alexdupre.com> In-Reply-To: <418792ED.8010700@alexdupre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411021145.34444.gte990t@mail.gatech.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:12:12 +0000 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 5.3-RC2] Processes STILL hanging in unkillable state X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:26:23 -0000 On Tuesday 02 November 2004 09:00, you wrote: > Jason Harmening wrote: > > I just upgraded to 5.3-RC2, and I'm still running into the problem where > > processes will hang in an unkillable state. In particular, this happens > > for me with OpenOffice under a heavy load. 'ps' reports the state as > > 'TL' and 'top' reports the state as STOP. Neither kill -CONT nor kill > > -KILL will work. > > Same here. With OpenOffice and Java under high load. Yes--I forgot to mention it, but my OpenOffice problems have all seemed to happen at the same time I have some instance of the JVM (native 1.4.2) running. OpenOffice will start up, reach almost the end of its splash screen, and then simply hang in an unkillable state. This has a very sinister side effect in that, when the system does its daily security run (I'm also assuming it tries to clean up useless processes), and there's such an "unkillable" process, the entire system will hang. It's not an abrupt freeze, but it's a gradual "bogging down" that ultimately requires a hard reset. The same thing happens during a shutdown/reboot with an unkillable process, but luckily the system manages to sync the disk before hanging.