From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 28 12:42:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636BCD64; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4E702B99; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9SCgLDE052628; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:42:21 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r9SCgLvR052627; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:42:21 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:42:21 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX Message-ID: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:42:30 -0000 Hello! [Cc to stable@, for wider audience] The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/, meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would be shipped without them. 1) AppleTalk Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice had very little use since 90th. Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2]. 2) IPX Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[3]. In practice had very little use since 90th. Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2011[4]. Current status of these protocols in FreeBSD is "compilable". For the next couple of years, we plan a lot of changes in networking stack, many of which will require changing the protocols, as well. Keeping them in compilable state would require additional manpower, but it is very probable, that after all the changes they will be utterly broken, albeit compilable. P.S. I account any objector as taker of maintainership :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.6 [2] http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps8802/ps5460/product_bulletin_c25-520459.html [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Enterprise_Server#OES-NetWare [4] http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/novipx/configuration/guide/Novell_IPX_Discontinuation.html -- Totus tuus, Glebius.