From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 12:38:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F8B16A405 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100EF43D49 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 12:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([70.39.69.56]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060510123818.JWQC9009.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 10 May 2006 08:38:18 -0400 From: "fbsd" To: "Beech Rintoul" , Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 08:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200605100041.23001.beech@alaskaparadise.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: RE: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:38:19 -0000 As a long time reader of this list I did not see any announcement of it here. Only after selection of the new logo was made was it talked about on this list. People were very up set with it them and the ground swell over this has only gotten bigger. Loyal long time users are feeling insulted about being left out from the decision about the need for a new logo. A post in the archive give some lame reasons for a new logo which many people disagreed with even then but still the new legal FreeBSD foundation went ahead any how putting it on the official website removing the "beastie" logo. I for one do not see any need to change the logo at all. It's just as professional as the "penguin". I would say special effort was made to keep this whole new logo thing a secret from the general user population. That also goes for the formation of the new legal FreeBSD foundation. Not a word of it happening on this list until it was a done deal. You can see from this thread just how big a stink this is making. Lets point the finger at the real reason for the new logo. As part of the new legal FreeBSD foundation, the people who set it up though it's better to own the complete legal rights to the logo. The "beastie" logo legal rights is owned by an individual. So being pressed for time they choose to keep it off the questions list and pushed it through selecting what ever logo they had just to meet the filing dead line for the new legal FreeBSD foundation formation. For those of you who think this subject is flame bait, YOU ARE WHY THIS NEW LOGO IDEA WAS EVEN ABLE TO GET OFF THE GROUND IN THE FIRST PLACE. Sham on you, shut your pie hole. I want to know the email addresses of the people in control of the new foundation and everyone on this list who does not like the new logo and/or the way in which it was forced upon us should email them to voice our dissatisfaction directly to them. Because its obvious posting on this list has no effect or value in determining what happens to the legal FreeBSD organization and thus the logo used to represent us. If you want your voice in this matter to be effective you have to email those in legal control of the FreeBSD foundation. It's time they stop hiding and become accountable for their stupid collective actions. Its time the FreeBSD foundation offer an binding vote by the general user population from all the FreeBSD lists to settle this question once and for all about the "beastie" logo being the official FreeBSD foundation logo. This even includes our brothers and sisters in other countries who have their own FreeBSD.org websites and don't even know about this logo problem yet.