From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 18 01:44:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13C2106566C for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-21.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-21.bluehost.com [69.89.21.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B16E88FC21 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11739 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2009 01:44:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2009 01:44:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fSp054fAnYghw7t1ku3tOXoyGadnmewGVl07JWkWkhnLd6CngZ4CJootRMeX52nTCR/gLGs7l2NP5ppz4B0MJ+rFCe6fnSjdrUwa1f8xgHQaBx6cEbju9W86xP+X2oOu; Received: from 63-253-113-170.ip.mcleodusa.net ([63.253.113.170] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRyyO-00036X-Q5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:44:25 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:37:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:37:50 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20090718013750.GA98238@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20090717224837.GA52217@kokopelli.hydra> <20090718014347.1a182ef7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090718000736.GA90771@kokopelli.hydra> <20090718022822.07ca9f17.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090718022822.07ca9f17.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 63.253.113.170 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:44:26 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 02:28:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:36 -0600, Chad Perrin wro= te: > >=20 > > Do you know this from personal experience, or are you just assuming that > > I won't pull out all my hair five seconds after I discover it deleted a > > bunch of shit I wanted to keep? >=20 > As I said, I can confirm it for bookmarks in Firefox. It's a similar > thing with Thunderbird's mailboxes. >=20 > The rest is just deduction from UNIX principles, formed into a kind > of counter-question: Why (and how) should user data be saved within > the application's directory structures? I've learned a long time ago to not rely on deducing things from a Unixy perspective when it comes to big, fat, bloated GUI applications. If that worked most of the time with such applications, Firefox would be a very different application today. I found the fact that Firefox switched from plain text to an unreadable database format for storing cookie exceptions somewhat surprising (and it broke a cookie policy exception searching utility I had written because Firefox doesn't provide worthwhile cookie policy exception searching). >=20 > The update process will ONLY have effect on the files installed by the > port. Are your user files mentioned in the corresponding control files > of the port? Surely not - how could they? The port will only delete > those files that are list as have been installed by the port, nothing > more, nothing less. Good point. Thanks for the perspective. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Henry Spencer: "Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly." --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkphJ24ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU56gCgoO66jeSnrC3CqrK1s8C+R60k flcAoJaBS/vKxLS/+ZwurNbcqfgP8j9W =jQCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0--