From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 12:59:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A805016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:59:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FA943D49 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:59:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.nossin@student.tue.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 3FF2A14BDC9; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin502 (dyn414.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.117]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC80014BD76; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:18 +0200 (CEST) From: "Freek Nossin" To: "'Benjamin Thelen'" Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <426F9F7F.4000904@ccgis.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcVLyQAvuqvMt0YxRdmr8kSdl9JA6AAJ+c+Q Message-Id: <20050428125918.AC80014BD76@pastinakel.tue.nl> X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.64 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 256 MB not enough RAM for Desktop-FreeBSD, a strange experience X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:59:20 -0000 Hello list-member :) I had the same experience with OpenOffice. I do have the same amount of RAM, but I think it is not related to the size the machine's memory, UNLESS the use of virtual memory is a problem. The thing is, the 256 of RAM is often used for 100% on my system and therefor it has to swap a lot. OO.org didn't even start in XFCE properly on my machine and I too couldn't kill the process. Even with kill -9. Unfortunately nobody was able to help, I did sent a message over this list but nobody came up with the cause of the problem or a solution. I do think it is BSD related because the process was unkillable. If you find the cause, or even better a solution, to this problem I'd like to hear about it. Good Luck, Freek Nossin -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Thelen [mailto:bt@ccgis.de] Sent: woensdag 27 april 2005 16:20 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 256 MB not enough RAM for Desktop-FreeBSD, a strange experience Hi list, I started using FreeBSD as a Desktop in December 04 with the hardware configuration below FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 Asus TUSL-C with PIII-1133 256 MB RAM WDC WD800JB KDE 3.3.2 OOo-1.1.4 Very often OpenOffice-1.4 died on starting, just showing the splash screen. I couldn't kill the process, even not with "-9". So I had to reboot. Because of KDEs behavior to start applications, which have been used before, OpenOffice was started automatically on KDEs startup. Mostly successful. OpenOffice started a bit more reliable using XFCE4... In combination with this FreeBSD was hanging on the end of a shutdown: No buffers busy after final sync I didn't find very helpful information on the net, but since I added 256 MB of RAM I have never seen one of these errors. Does someone have any idea what that could have been caused? Adding more RAM, gaining stability, gaining speed, ok... Ben