From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:28:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09568106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24CA8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686FA5C2E558 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:30:17 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:28:31 +1000 Message-Id: <1233095311.1202.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:57 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 16:04 +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > > > I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this > > condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd. > > People have to use KDE4 in significant numbers for it to mature. The > real problem was not that they released it, but that Linux distributions > rushed to make it the default version, or in some cases the only > version, in their packaging systems. From what I've read, many people > in the KDE4 project were not happy about this. If most distributions > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, > or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have > been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive > attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. > Thats a fair comment for the linux crowd... :) > BTW, I don't think it's really fair to suggest that KDE4 is trying to > ape Vista, it looks to me as if the've both just borrowed a lot from > OS-X, A lot of the other stuff in KDE4, has been under development for a > long-time. Another fair comment, but they were still competing with Vista to the punch and only just made it- consider the media releases around the time of the Vista launch from the kde marketers. They were offering kde on M $! Personally I would have waited for the Vista cock up to reveal itself while I tidied up kde4, THEN swooped in with this really cool alternative to save the day. Once people realised that this could run on a FOSS you'd get these projects mobbed with new users (good for linux anyway).