From nobody Tue Sep 19 13:22:49 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rqj5R5WfJz4tw4g for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=vvSx=FD=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Received: from smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl (smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl [194.109.157.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rqj5R3P2fz4NqC; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=vvSx=FD=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:22:49 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=rw2; t=1695129769; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=DtYpLI0cl75rcS4+o/VDQSuf8cK5RhfVG4xoSSYs9EY=; b=Lo0KSQoI+5fJy44KqNhzL54dwhovmynkxXip3/nZG9ctY/2HS9r7BNVMsYIujuApbfnbrK w53rnJAPjrtzh7D2T8JA1ng9GAvWVP4EQ9NVV5n6lpJ6WVTggJf2LT7y8hQetxdJWa2FXf rdwyz9FMxVcmOs/NH57YBAk7L5jlODLzH8ltkYn3VbfY7gR31xkH94WVTxjYAXFNTXBP4k LZnQHKHBp3QzA3R5ZS99xWoe2ZD9tOv0DYA2puOCDMDlDsPnP/0HaiOMFXdS5yyF3ttjhn HvwOA0SHQN1RjUYzXpx46OTI5fosX1gg0m0aS/9K2wVXiFi8jaX6POfRf57i2w== From: Ronald Klop To: Michael Gmelin Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, pstef@freebsd.org Message-ID: <375102065.5853.1695129769542@localhost> In-Reply-To: <634385E4-6E9A-410F-9BDC-2E2B97A8C46F@grem.de> References: <925097787.3785.1695119378729@localhost> <634385E4-6E9A-410F-9BDC-2E2B97A8C46F@grem.de> Subject: Re: changes to ps -d? List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5852_284312331.1695129769444" X-Mailer: Realworks (671.183) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3265, ipnet:194.109.0.0/16, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rqj5R3P2fz4NqC ------=_Part_5852_284312331.1695129769444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Van: Michael Gmelin Datum: dinsdag, 19 september 2023 13:01 Aan: Ronald Klop CC: pstef@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: changes to ps -d? > > > > > >> On 19. Sep 2023, at 12:30, Ronald Klop wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> In current the way ps -p works has been changed [1]. >> I could use "ps axd -p " to see the process tree of some ongoing task. >> In current this has changed to always need an extra option "ps axd -p -D down". Can this become the default again? At least when -d is used. >> > > > There was a discussion on the FreeBSD-current mailing list that lead to the decision to make this change: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-July/004071.html > > Best > Thanks, I missed that conversation. Curious about the meaning of "would be the best in that -d would go back to what it was" in https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-August/004277.html. Currently in "ps -d -p " -d is not back at what it was. Regards, Ronald. ------=_Part_5852_284312331.1695129769444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Van: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>
Datum: dinsdag, 19 september 2023 13:01
Aan: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
CC: pstef@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: Re: changes to ps -d?

 
 
 
 
On 19. Sep 2023, at 12:30, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:
 
Hi,

In current the way ps -p works has been changed [1].
I could use "ps axd -p <pid>" to see the process tree of some ongoing task.
In current this has changed to always need an extra option "ps axd -p <pid> -D down". Can this become the default again? At least when -d is used.
 
 
There was a discussion on the FreeBSD-current mailing list that lead to the decision to make this change:
 
 
Best
 


Thanks, I missed that conversation.
Curious about the meaning of "would be the best in that -d would go back to what it was" in https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-August/004277.html.

Currently in "ps -d -p <pid>" -d is not back at what it was.

Regards,
Ronald.
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