From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 28 11:05:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8216A422 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:05:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vaaf@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B5F43D49 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vaaf@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IVE00I2C9FR9W80@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:04:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from urban.broadpark.no ([213.187.181.70]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IVE007PN9FQE710@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:04:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:04:37 +0100 From: Kristian Vaaf In-reply-to: <8B838E3F-0421-446E-873F-1C8C5A12070C@alaska.com> To: Don Poynter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060228115336.0221b858@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <8B838E3F-0421-446E-873F-1C8C5A12070C@alaska.com> Cc: Subject: Re: regarding new logo... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:05:12 -0000 You like the logo? Speaking as a lecturer at the Royal Academy of Arts, on behalf of myself and a lot of other designers, the new FreeBSD logo is worthless. It's useless eyecandy. As if we don't have enough of that already. The logo competition wasn't held properly. It was only announced internally within FreeBSD's circles and not promoted through design universities, communities and such. Also the people hosting the competition have acted rather arrogant towards many that I know who just wanted to help. Second, only a few selected people (who may not know anything about design as far as we're concerned) got to choose the logo. In my opinion, it is to show how the FreeBSD project itself neglects its real life users. The logo is, again, eyecandy. Though in some cases pleasant to look at, it does not fulfill the criterias of a modern day logo. These, however, do: http://youworkforthem.com/product.php?sku=P0370 Anyway Don Poynter, his e-mail is gak at tomsksoft dot com. Kristian Vaaf, R&D | http://www.designcouncil.org.uk