From owner-freebsd-security Thu May 11 19:33: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E271837B7AB for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 19:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA21901; Thu, 11 May 2000 19:32:23 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda21899; Thu May 11 19:32:13 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA54444; Thu, 11 May 2000 19:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdg54442; Thu May 11 19:31:26 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4C2VPD35790; Thu, 11 May 2000 19:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005120231.e4C2VPD35790@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdC35785; Thu May 11 19:30:34 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Mark Murray Cc: Paul Hart , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: envy.vuurwerk.nl daily run output In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 May 2000 22:44:22 +0200." <200005112044.WAA41333@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:30:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200005112044.WAA41333@grimreaper.grondar.za>, Mark Murray writes: > [ Change the freaking subject already!! ] > > > That's a scary thought. "Our security depends on all attackers being > > stupid." Shouldn't we work toward meaningful tools that cannot be > > subverted even by the most skilled of attackers? Not all attackers are > > script kiddies and it would be foolish of us to think they are. > > *Bing* > > for (;;) > printf("There is no silver bullet!\n"); > > The only workable tool is a well-paid, paranoid security guy. The rest > are there to help the WPPSG. I think that having tripwire or something with the same functionality and features should be included in the base system. Talking to a salesman at Tripwire, they have plans to release the Tripwire 2.x source. Once they do I'll attempt a port. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message