From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 21 04:21:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19091 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:21:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from db2server.voga.com.br (db2server.voga.com.br [200.239.39.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18761 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:15:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daniel_sobral@voga.com.br) From: daniel_sobral@voga.com.br Received: from papagaio.voga.com.br (papagaio.voga.com.br [200.239.39.2]) by db2server.voga.com.br (8.8.3+2.6Wbeta9/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03888; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:14:03 -0200 Received: by papagaio.voga.com.br(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.7 3-18-1997)) id 03256593.0048B032 ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:56 -0300 X-Lotus-FromDomain: VOGA To: grog@lemis.com cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <83256592.006336EC.00@papagaio.voga.com.br> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:54 -0300 Subject: Re: Device Driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Well, I see that I mentioned the copy on my system, which > wasn't the intention. Sorry about that. It's the same as > the version on http://www.FreeBSD.org. Still, that makes > it easier to confirm that you didn't check it (a number > of other people did). I didn't check your link because reading the FreeBSD page was the first thing I did to learn about kernel debugging, even before the man page. > What problem do you have with the following passage? "The second scenario is a hot-key on the keyboard, usually Ctrl-Alt-ESC." > I don't see any particular reason to mention the name in the keymap > tables. You only need that if you want to change it, which wasn't > your issue. Well, my problem with that passage is that that wasn't the key. Ok, so Crtl-Alt-ESC does not work, what now? I admit I didn't check us.iso.kbd, which, in retrospect, I should have done, because the keyboard map I was using was created based on us.iso.kbd (I know, I created it). So, tell me something, in a vanilla system (ie., without any changes you my have made), is Crtl-Alt-ESC "debug" in us.iso.kbd (supposing that's the keyboard referenced by "usually", since "usually" did not apply to _my_ keyboard)? (Don't bother checking -- I just did, from ftp.freebsd.org, and it is not.) So, my issue was, I *had* to change it, or at least discover *what* key was associated with it. Or, in other words, precisely what you are saying was not my issue. Now, you may have taken an issue with my statement that "worse of all was the handbook". It should be stated here that this relates _exclusively_ with the "how do I enter ddb" issue. Aside from this issue, the handbook was as usual as ever, and in no time (after UTSLing the debug key) at all I was debugging my driver. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel_Sobral@voga.com.br Tagline: * FreeBSD. Earth.