From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 24 21:06:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105DF106566B for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BD78FC18 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jdtrt-0008GN-0T for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:09 +0000 Received: from 78-0-71-165.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.0.71.165]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:09 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-0-71-165.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:09 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:05:58 +0100 Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <47E30FB4.1000205@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2C99055F663D60B4723A4995" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-0-71-165.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: <47E30FB4.1000205@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news Subject: Re: SoC Project: Ports 2.0 engine X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2C99055F663D60B4723A4995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > School ate any free time I had to work on ports 2.0. For this reason = I=20 > would like to find some way to make it a Summer of Code project. Kip=20 > Macy has provisionally agreed to mentor it if a) it is approved by=20 > Google and FreeBSD, b) No one more qualified steps forward. >=20 > Project goals (SoC portion): >=20 > 1. Impliment beta quality version of the engine (see "Recursive Make= =20 > Considered Harmful" for main points) I can't find the post with this title, but I think I get what you mean :)= > 2. Use the engine to build xorg and all ports it depends on >=20 > 3. Creation of compatibility layer >=20 > What do people think and should I proceed with submitting a application= =20 > to Google? Go for it :) I'd like to suggest two of the major features that a new ports system=20 should have: - reliability (almost in the database "ACID" sense; for example that no=20 half-registered packages are created by issuing Ctrl-C in a critical mome= nt) - parallel builds of as much as possible; at least parallel builds of=20 independent dependencies and if possible also of ports themselves=20 (probably by adding an opt-in flag in Makefile to signal if the port=20 supports "make -j" for its build phase). The first one can be solved by rolling your own system which carefully=20 juggles atomic operations and locks or by using an already present=20 solution like sqlite. --------------enig2C99055F663D60B4723A4995 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6Be2ldnAQVacBcgRAryHAKDdwahUFzA+BZ04vWAihAy+UmsgBwCeMC/L K17iVwRVNC7NCOJjzdACr0k= =jbhb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2C99055F663D60B4723A4995--