From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 20 23:10:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DB616A4CE for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:10:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AB143D39 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23063; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:10:26 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050420170705.06dc6050@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:10:04 -0600 To: Joel From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20050420120120.9D06.REES@ddcom.co.jp> References: <20050419043330.GA92736@xor.obsecurity.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050419203347.05bed918@localhost> <20050420120120.9D06.REES@ddcom.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't build ports on older FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:10:36 -0000 At 09:16 PM 4/19/2005, Joel wrote: >It sounds like a wonderful idea. > >Who's going to pay for it? The same guy who's paying all of the port maintainers now. ;-) >Oh? Well, okay, MSWxp sp2 is not what I would call professionally >crafted software. They're professionals; they're just not always competent professionals. But they're light years ahead of FreeBSD on the issue of maintainability. With FreeBSD, the answer is almost always to wipe the system clean and rebuild from scratch. >I'm not going to lie. If it were possible to fund each of the BSDs >enough to maintain professional backporting services for every release, >I'll admit it would sure be nice. There's no need. Again, just maintain a record of the most recent version of each port that will work on each release of FreeBSD that has not been EOLed. Simple. And make sure that the port collection as a whole does not break itself when updated according to the recommended procedure. (This is the least one could expect of software of even mediocre quality.) --Brett Glass