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Date:      Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:30:29 -0900
From:      "W.D.McKinney" <dee@akwireless.net>
To:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail)
Message-ID:  <1075440628.17090.880.camel@papa.wdm.com>
In-Reply-To: <E1AmLjJ-000JYf-TY@psknet.com>
References:  <E1AmLjJ-000JYf-TY@psknet.com>

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On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 14:37, Troy Settle wrote:
> Andy,
> 
> I take exception to your statements.  I fit neither under A nor B.
> 

I guess only the experienced walk with a limp.

> I figured it like this...  I could spend $35k/year + to hire a postmaster to
> keep up the spam/virus battle on our mail server, or I could pay Postini
> less than $10k/year to do the same.
> 

I spend even less and just put a Barracuda in front our MTA.
Lovely results, unless of course you haven't tried one.


> I have not the time myself to do this, and $25k/year or more is more than
> enough reason to go with a commercial solution for spam/virus filtering.
> 
> In addition, Postini catches MUCH more spam than any open source solution I
> had previously looked at.  It's not perfect by any means, but more effective
> than anything I've seen in the open source arena.
> 

Hard to comment on what you haven't tried. I have received many
complaints from customers who use Postini, so it is as you say, not
perfect, and nor is any any other option. So rather than pay Postini and
have nothing at the end of the day, I went with Barracuda.

WDM
Alaska Wireless Systems


> --
>   Troy Settle
>   Pulaski Networks
>   http://www.psknet.com
>   540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638
>   Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year
>   
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org 
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andy Dills
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:16 PM
> > To: ap296
> > Cc: isp@freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail)
> > 
> > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, ap296 wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that 
> > can keep up with
> > > updates and trends which constantly change -- that 
> > specialize in this sort
> > > of thing.
> > >
> > > I recommend www.postini.com
> > 
> > For what it's worth, postini is designed for two sorts of companies:
> > 
> > Company A: Tons of money, nothing to do with it.
> > Company B: No knowlegde of how to run unix servers.
> > 
> > Honestly, anybody who considers themselves competent whatsoever at a
> > command line who also pays postini their ridiculous monthly fees, is
> > wasting a considerable amount of money.
> > 
> > Amavisd-new has made implementing top-notch virus and spam filtering
> > trivial. Heck, it even has the ability to lookup 
> > per-recipient filtering
> > policies and whitelists/blacklists in a mysql database, an absolutely
> > essential component for ISPs.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > ---
> > Andy Dills
> > Xecunet, Inc.
> > www.xecu.net
> > 301-682-9972
> > ---
> > 




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