From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 19:42:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C056B16A41F for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:42:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mail2.fluidhosting.com [204.14.90.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53BF043D53 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:42:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 44826 invoked by uid 399); 3 Jan 2006 19:42:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 19:42:37 -0000 Message-ID: <43BAD3AB.302@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:42:35 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Eischen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail_enable="NO" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:42:39 -0000 Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Vivek Khera wrote: > >> On Dec 31, 2005, at 6:56 PM, security wrote: >> >>> And the rc.sendmail(8) under 5.4 stable says that "NONE" is >>> deprecated and will be removed in a future release. According to >>> the man page, >> It says that in 6.0 also, so it will probably be at least until 7.0 >> that it continues to work. >> >> Personally, I think having to set a bazillion variables to turn off >> sendmail in rc.conf and periodic.conf is just a pain (and probably a > > Strongly seconded. There should be one knob to disable the > entire thing. SENDMAIL_ENABLE=NO should disable *everything* > without touching any other knobs. First, rc.conf and periodic.conf are totally separate, so having just one knob for both isn't practical now, but might be an interesting project down the road. Second, IIRC the first implementation of sendmail_enable=no did actually disable all of sendmail, but since people could not send mail locally that turned out to be a POLA violation itself, so the current two-stage system was developed. It's impossible to make everyone happy here, so I think the current system is a reasonable compromise. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection