Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:40:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, Trish Lynch <trish@bsdunix.net>, Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.x compatibilty.. Was: MFC of rcNG? Message-ID: <20020618224029.I52976@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <3D0F7AAA.110E0D8@FreeBSD.org>; from DougB@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 11:23:38AM -0700 References: <20681.1024423602@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <3D0F7AAA.110E0D8@FreeBSD.org>
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--2oox5VnwalALFvA7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 11:23:38AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > I would like to reiterate my previous points... namely that for the > vast majority of users, this change will be almost unnoticed.=20 Not so. At least, I hope not. At the very least, I look forward to being able to tell people "Yes, you can stop/start/restart any service with 'sh /etc/rc.d/<service>.sh stop|start|restart" In addition, the way the sysadmin moves things around in the boot order will change. Instead of editing /etc/rc*, you change some comments in some shell scripts. If I want to find out *why* things started in a particular order I now run rcorder(8). Doubtless there are others. So, not only does the project's documentation have to change, but so does all the internal documentation maintained by companies that are using FreeBSD that describes how to do things to their FreeBSD systems. [ Now multiply this by every change that's going in to 5.x that won't have a backward compatible implementation ] These changes take time to make. And throwing up yet another bar in the adoption of 5.x is a *bad thing*. This is about to become a wider discussion that rc_ng. So I'll stop here, and kick off a new thread. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --2oox5VnwalALFvA7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9D6jNk6gHZCw343URAuboAKCWeHUSh85iBQwFAXXYp2zqhTilqACgj/6v qhjg7Ng2hc2jsqs0OC6BkwU= =iMxZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oox5VnwalALFvA7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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