Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:56:36 +0100 From: Mark Martinec <Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Merge ping+ping6 and traceroue+traceroute6 to single =?UTF-8?Q?utilities=3F?= Message-ID: <b944d0984aadeb5ca28c8d03bd367558@mailbox.ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <CAO2cuEM2qVu2PGOJ2WfFz-aiQKw8T6drGz4oxLkUAEnXptK8TQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <1063008459.20140111160525@serebryakov.spb.ru> <52D14140.3090003@gibfest.dk> <20140111.143644.41639035.sthaug@nethelp.no> <52D15185.50802@gibfest.dk> <CAO2cuEM2qVu2PGOJ2WfFz-aiQKw8T6drGz4oxLkUAEnXptK8TQ@mail.gmail.com>
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2014-02-11 10:00, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> ping localhost ("grab any name, you just want to know its alive")
> ping 127.0.0.1 ("you know you are pinging v4 without a doubt")
> ping ::1 ("you also know you are pinging v6 without a doubt")
>
> ping -4 localhost ("you know you are getting v4 without a doubt")
> ping -6 localhost ("you know you are getting v6 without a doubt")
>
> ping -4 ::1 ("must be retarded in some way")
That's how it works in several commercial routers (Cisco, Summit,
Juniper, ...)
and that's how it works in Windows 7/8. No surprises to a user there,
'does the right thing'.
> Doing it right and merging these two would leave for more constructive
> use.
[...]
> There is no reason whatsoever that these utilities cannot be combined.
> And
> there is one very valid reason they should be.
[...]
> Quite frankly I am tired of seeing the old pessimism and paradigms that
> projects keep falling into over silly little subtle changes.
Remember the original PHK's story ( http://bikeshed.com/ ) ?
It ended favourably for the sleep(1) command, it got its new feature.
What can be learned there is: just needs someone to do it and be
persistent enough to be accepted.
Looks like a perfect task for Google Summer of Code 2014,
time to apply is very near:
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014
Mark
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