From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 08:58:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id B16E2C30; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:58:03 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r383472 - head/audio/muse Message-ID: <20150407085803.GA82210@FreeBSD.org> References: <201504061859.t36IxK0v000969@svn.freebsd.org> <20150407012902.GA22994@FreeBSD.org> <91AB85D3-A8DE-491C-A2D7-4E8D7E1CDC12@adamw.org> <20150407023204.GA44784@FreeBSD.org> <552376AD.7010903@marino.st> <20150407070711.GA90710@FreeBSD.org> <552386FA.7030007@marino.st> <20150407075154.GA58322@FreeBSD.org> <55238F29.1010404@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55238F29.1010404@marino.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 08:58:03 -0000 On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:02:49AM +0200, John Marino wrote: > Well, we've had this discussion before. There's no reason to release > maintainership now with the more lax blankets. The fear of committing > to a maintained port is mostly gone with the exception of a very few > maintainers that insist even spelling error and typo fixes still need to > run by them somehow. Fair enough; recent changes in perception of what should be (thankfully) allowed to commit without explicit approval had mitigated the need for release of maintainership (as hard lock) considerably. > "maintained by community" means "maintained by nobody" and you only have > to look at pkgsrc to see how successful this approach is. Interesting. Given your DragonFly experience, can you elaborate a bit on the situation with pkgsrc, which I think was used as primary collection for third-party software, yet later had switched (back?) to dports? Or point me to some article or blog entry (WRT "how successful this approach is"). > I'll continue work under the concept "ports@FreeBSD.org" ports are > unloved and fair game. I don't think I'm alone. Another solution is team-maintainership; I still do not quite understand why it did not work out with games@ (several months ago, all games@ ports were reset to ports@). There was some discussion AFAIR, but I didn't find it convincing (nor can remember it now). ./danfe