From owner-cvs-all Sat Nov 17 20:29:32 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B1D37B416; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAI4SuQ45639; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@kayak.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAI4TNh15966; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:29:23 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Steve Kargl Cc: Bill Fumerola , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/gx if_gx.c if_gxreg.h if_gxvar.h Message-ID: <20011117202923.A15685@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20011115175616.A77299@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20011115201355.F71181-100000@achilles.silby.com> <20011115200919.A79451@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20011115234211.H81711@elvis.mu.org> <20011115221258.A80419@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011115221258.A80419@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:12:58PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:42:11PM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:09:19PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > > If a user recompiles GENERIC, then it should be obvious > > > that the user knows what they are doing or the user > > > doesn't read the supplied documentation. > > > > what about those users who do binary upgrades? > > > > Would you encourage someone to do a binary upgrade > without reading about the changes in the system? > You're grasping at straws. I think we should not handwave the fact that people do not read documentation by saying that they should. I too got bitten by having a device driver disappear while upgrading -stable and my first reaction was not that I should have read the docs, but that this was supposed to be -stable and having a perfectly fine network driver disappear between point releases is in violation with POLA. Whether my first reaction was sensible or not is beside the point. The point is that there's a valid concern and we can avoid it from happening to those not cognizant. Just a thought, -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message