From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 23:04:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 8782916A4CF; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:04:34 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <40E185B9.2090008@cs.fsu.edu> from Sahil R Cooner at "Jun 29, 2004 03:07:37 pm" To: cooner@cs.fsu.edu (Sahil R Cooner) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:04:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040630230434.8782916A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_ndis kernel crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:04:34 -0000 > I believe you are right, have to load the modules once the system has > boot, and also make sure to unload the modules before you shutdown > otherwise you might get a kernel panic like I do ... Well, my broker is E. F. Hutton, and he believes the following: - The NDISulator never needs to load any files from /compat/ndis unless specifically asked to by the driver. If the driver doesn't call NdisOpenFile(), there's no attempt to touch any filesystems. Only certain drivers that rely on external firmware image files use this facility. If you don't have such a driver, you're barking up the wrong tree. - Several of you have said "it panicks" but _NONE_ of you have bothered to show the actual panic messages. Yes, they matter. Get a pencil and write them down if you have to. It's not rocket surgery. Also, there's no reason why you can't add options DDB to your kernel and get a stack trace when it panicks (a panic during device probing should still drop you to the DDB prompt, if I'm not mistaken). Again, you may have to actually write the information down on paper to preserve it, but I think we can all agree this isn't such an enormous hardship. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose =============================================================================