From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 13:58:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08E3A41B; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91891EC6; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wo20so9512602obc.8 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vLqVtxHlYILbvADBglu7S9iqLLANQDF1IDte1fPzkhE=; b=EPqM2uxDkfvIbq7Ri8jlf5fOXO8QKomGE0ck273qaQ8EuaxBZJhEX4PE6e8uuWVno9 r5c1V4VNVfQBjyo0ol0RygZWmrW6zu9JPv7Wl5uKb/cAPSk0qfF8hCqVSoBERy/a6LkQ eB+I172nQWUqisN21f7DmMzEwPTWUzme9yqjzlofYvZQKGnfiUYQSZXt828GWtMzl2he 6aYbDZv9Siv9ILCV75K/Y7Jgdad7bwuBiUy9VVBI77jxTU4aA3oY25j2WrhvmeeQ5MTM o72iBn5I8mgcfHFXxd+HjoxFV1gwVjxu/XvGNFP1NU5dgYWy04Eni12Px5Nlwi2jxRRF qWow== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.19.132 with SMTP id f4mr38321556obe.14.1394632731947; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: andrej.zverev@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.52.193 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:58:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5320570D.5060709@FreeBSD.org> References: <201403112149.s2BLneVw006063@svn.freebsd.org> <5320570D.5060709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:58:51 +0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Eq26OC6LzmQDn1bKkr3fRg2Qwbs Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r347936 - in head: . japanese japanese/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin japanese/spamassassin mail mail/claws-mail-spamassassin mail/evolution mail/exim mail/isbg mail/mailscanner mail/mimedefang m... From: Andrej Zverev To: Bryan Drewery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" , Adam Weinberger , "ports-committers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:58:53 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 3/11/2014 9:56 PM, Andrej Zverev wrote: >> I think since p5-Mail-SA has a long history in ports tree, you >> (can/need/good idea) also send short annonce of such changes to >> port-announce@ and ports@ maillists. > > No, MOVED is sufficient. We never send ports@ or ports-announce@ for > renamed origins. Even UPDATING is not conventional in this case. Sure, I'm just worry about people who can read some sort or article about spamassassin and FreeBSD ( cd /usr/ports/mail/no-more-here && try another disto ) But I'm not ready to say more in support of this observation :-) > > I do agree with this change and wish we did similar on all other leaf > application ports. p5-* py-* rubygem-* to me mean very specifically that > they are libraries/dependencies/plugins/modules. Leaf applications > having a lang- qualifier on them is very confusing as upstreams do not > use it and they look like they are libraries, ie, p5-Mail-SpamAssassin > looks like something you could include in a perl script to use > spamassassin, not spamassassin itself. Well, you can use SA libraries actually. At least now i can quick find something from CPAN since i know how origin formed. With your solution I need mapping. Sure pkg have answers for all my questions, but people still using ports, grepping pkg-plist's not so fun. > > If this port includes both it should be split up into a library and the > leaf application. Are you planing to make own release team for 3rd party software? Or you know legal way to clone us to fill human resources?