From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:51:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6260037B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host5.domaindataservers.net (host5.domaindataservers.net [216.15.133.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E215E43E5E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlists@nwbombers.com) Received: from 64-35-128-114.gohighspeed.com ([64.35.128.114] helo=win98) by host5.domaindataservers.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Xmlt-0005zR-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <016701c23404$01d14280$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: References: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> Subject: Re: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:52:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.domaindataservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nwbombers.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, let me elaborate: I'm not trying to keep people off the network. I'm not trying to prevent spying on data. I'm not trying to prevent wrong MAC addresses from accessing the network. I'm trying to prevent access to the internet THROUGH the network without username/password. The network will be private - 192.168.100.XXX and the idea is for anyone who's interested and can get the signal, TO configure and get access. Once they do, they enter a url in thier browser, reach a webserver with forms to allow them to sign up. I would suppose a VPN might do this, as well. Either way, once they sign up, they can log in using ppp. This way I don't care if they change machines, or use thier account on a desktop AND laptop.. .just not both at once. For those who "share" connections via win98, me, xp, 2k, whatever, it's all proxied, and those machines do not appear on my network. It just appeared to me that PPPoE would be relatively simple to set up. Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? Mark Koskenmaki webmaster: www.nwbombers.com contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre Hall To: John Angelmo ; Mark Koskenmaki ; Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: PPPoE > Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up > a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an > email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to > the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame > you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies > to give a bit more direction to their needs. > There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this > can be done. One of my favorites is > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm > Hope this helps as well. > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > > I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access > through or > > > past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE > on a > > > windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based > PPPoE "server"? > > > > > > I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very > sensible and > > > slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) > security. > > > > > > Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my > > recomendation is a VPN connection. > > > > /John > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. > http://neomail.sourceforge.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message