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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2012 08:20:29 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Alex Moura <alexsm@gmail.com>
Cc:        Jamie <jamie@geniegate.com>, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>, Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav <des@des.no>, Vance Siemens <vance.siemens@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 10 prognostication...
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.. then:

* test out pkgng on FreeBSD-9.x and provide as much feedback as you can;
* help test out massive deployment, upgrade and auditing scenarios -
exactly the kinds of things which cloud using people need. Installing
10000 boxes is difficult. Auditing, upgrading and integrating services
on 10,000 boxes.. much more difficult.
* help out with the cloud provision-y service things that FreeBSD is
missing - for example, get the vmware vmdk installer stuff be part of
the install/release system - so people _can_ easily build FreeBSD
VMDK's as appliance/cloud images.
* integrate it with Puppet and other
configuration/monitoring/management frameworks. Upgrade that
integration to whatever counts as Tier-1 in those projects. I bet they
focus on Linux only.

There's a whole lot of useful work that doesn't at all leave the
userland. If you'd like to see FreeBSD in "the cloud", these are the
things you need to address.



Adrian



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