From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 08:18:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:18:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB1843D41 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:18:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ExL-0001w7-Ub for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:18:22 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <909006882.20050213085459@wanadoo.fr> References: <200502112313.28082.hindrich@worldchat.com> <200502121141.07311.bulliver@badcomputer.org> <1443267912.20050212215132@wanadoo.fr> <200502121359.53523.bulliver@badcomputer.org> <992422833.20050213024853@wanadoo.fr> <00c101c51170$19af5ee0$4300a8c0@ostros> <909006882.20050213085459@wanadoo.fr> Message-Id: From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:18:15 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: Freebsd vs. linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:18:25 -0000 On Feb 13, 2005, at 12:54 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: > >> Or if you are a BSD/UNIX/Linux admin. It is a lot easier to ssh and >> do >> all the other things you want with your unix-like servers from Mac OS >> X >> than from Windows. > > Why? I use SecureCRT and SecureFX for FTP, and both work beautifully. I have not used that, but I doubt it beats using a real openssh client inside a unix based terminal emulator in terms of terminal emulation and shell compatibility. As I said, I have not used this one, but all the other windows ones I have tried sucked royally. > > I've never found a solution for running an X Server on Windows, They exist. A friend of mine had one running on w2000 several years ago logging into hi BSD and Linux boxes using xterm. It worked reasonably well. > but > since I'm unwilling to run X on my production FreeBSD server, it hasn't > been too much of an issue. It will be if I decide to set up another > machine with X. I was not talking about an X11 server. I do have one on my Mac but I rarely run it. I occasionally have a need. I was talking about native Mac OS X capabilities and applications. The userland is based on the FreeBSD one, though the underlying kernel and plumbing are a custom Mach solution. Since OS X is a unix-life platform, and has the same toolchain and a very similar environment to FreeBSD and Linux, it meshes a lot easier. I have a Windows XP machine sitting here that dual boots with NT. I rarely boot it though. I do have one website that was developed in a Windows (-only) based program that needs to be updated occasionally (soon to be replaced by a WebObjects dynamic app)... And a few games that I have not bothered to play in months are on the machine. I do everything else on my Mac(s) including bookkeeping/accounting for a couple of businesses, credit card authorizations, software development, email, browsing, netnews, Terminal and ssh into my FreeBSD and lone Linux servers, database admin, word processing, presentations, graphics/photo and video editing (not a lot of the latter unfortunately), and many other things. And I am not a magnet for viruses, spyware, adware, I do not pay a MS tax anymore (I don't plan on updating my Windows machine) and I am much more productive than I was when the Windows 2000 machine was my main workstation. They just work. Something that Windows cannot always say (driver, dll, etc conflicts, screwed up registry [my W2000 machine is dying a slow death of rot and decay -- I have not a clue on what is wrong but it seems to decay over time as the registry corrupts and rots], etc). I don't see lots of freeze ups and BSOD anymore on Windows -- that has gotten better -- but the inconsistencies and the rot and decay that gradually make the machines less stable (without the spyware/adware/malware too) is enough for me. (And yes, Windows rots and decays, most likely from registry corruptions -- the registry is the dumbest thing they could do -- a single massive point of failure). And I am a techno-geek -- not some average joe user who wouldn't have a clue. Chad > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"