From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Mar 12 12:22: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5437B416 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDAEBD10; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00978; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:21:58 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2CKP5410061; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Roman Neuhauser Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: loose packages References: <20020312155327.ABE2E5F803@postfix2-2.free.fr> <20020312164736.GR63612@roman.mobil.cz> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 12 Mar 2002 12:25:04 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20020312164736.GR63612@roman.mobil.cz> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roman Neuhauser writes: > > From: mess-mate > > Sorry, this is not the solution. > > To do this there must be packages in /usr/ports/distfiles or > > anywhere, isn't ? > > Yes. Like on the internet. If you do > # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2 > # make install > it'll fetch the necessary tarballs from internet, place them in > /usr/ports/distfiles, unpack, compile, and install the software. > > > So the only way to reinstal KDE is to do it from my isntall CD, but > > HOW ? > > that's not true. Kris already gave you the correct answer. Be nice. New people may still be under the misapprehension from reading CD cases and the Handbook that they only need the set of FreeBSD CDs to use FreeBSD, at least until the next set is released. To compile a port, you simply change to the directory of the program you wish to install, type make install, and let the system do the rest. The full original distribution for each port you build is retrieved dynamically off the CDROM or a local FTP site, ... Mr. mess-mate is learning the truth the discouraging way. I think the intro stuff should warn upfront that users of the OS are very apt to be significantly hindered by broken or quickly obsoleted software if they don't have a good Internet connection. Maybe that should go without saying, but I don't think so. I've found myself "needing" to download MUCH more than I ever did with Linux. I suspect that many on dial-up find it intolerable. I don't know what can be done about it except to stop telling newbies they need to run a full cvsup and ports upgrade every time they have a problem (or even regularly). It is good advice for some, but I'm sure it drives others away before they learn how to avoid the frequent downloading. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message