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Date:      Sun, 9 Oct 2022 13:45:25 -0700
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
To:        Mel Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source
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On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Mel Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com>
wrote:

> On 2022-10-08 8:35, paul beard wrote:
> > My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events. I
> > decided after I rebuilt this freebsd instance that I would say goodbye
> > to installing from source and allow pkg to manage it all. Surely by now,
> > it's mature enough to handle it.
> >
> > Reader, it is not.
> >
> > I allowed it to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that it no
> > longer worked;
> > Oct  8 03:15:16 <mail.warn> www postfix/smtp[65148]: warning:
> > unsupported SASL client implementation: cyrus
> > Oct  8 03:15:16 <mail.crit> www postfix/smtp[65148]: fatal: SASL library
> > initialization
> > Oct  8 03:15:17 <mail.warn> www postfix/master[1157]: warning: process
> > /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtp pid 65148 exit status 1
> > Oct  8 03:15:17 <mail.warn> www postfix/master[1157]: warning:
> > /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtp: bad command startup -- throttling
> >
> > I went to the port directory and did a deinstall/reinstall and all is
> > well. Postfix flush cleared out the test emails I had queued up and no
> > errors in maillog. No changes to teh configuration files, it just worked
> > properly after a proper install.
>
> When you installed postfix via pkg, did you install postfix, or
> postfix-sasl?  The postfix port is flavoured:
>
> $ pkg search -r FreeBSD -x 'postfix(-.+)?-3.7.2'
> postfix-3.7.2_1,1              Secure alternative to widely-used Sendmail
> postfix-ldap-3.7.2_1,1         Secure alternative to widely-used
> Sendmail (with OpenLDAP and Cyrus SASL support)
> postfix-sasl-3.7.2_1,1         Secure alternative to widely-used
> Sendmail (with Cyrus SASL support)
>

> pkg query %o-%v postfix
mail/postfix-3.7.2_1,1
-- 
Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Mel Pi=
lgrim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com">list_freebsd@blu=
erosetech.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:soli=
d;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2022-10-08 8:35, =
paul beard wrote:<br>
&gt; My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events. =
I <br>
&gt; decided after I rebuilt this freebsd instance that I would say goodbye=
 <br>
&gt; to installing from source and allow pkg to manage it all. Surely by no=
w, <br>
&gt; it&#39;s mature enough to handle it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Reader, it is not.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I allowed it to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that it n=
o <br>
&gt; longer worked;<br>
&gt; Oct =C2=A08 03:15:16 &lt;mail.warn&gt; www postfix/smtp[65148]: warnin=
g: <br>
&gt; unsupported SASL client implementation: cyrus<br>
&gt; Oct =C2=A08 03:15:16 &lt;mail.crit&gt; www postfix/smtp[65148]: fatal:=
 SASL library <br>
&gt; initialization<br>
&gt; Oct =C2=A08 03:15:17 &lt;mail.warn&gt; www postfix/master[1157]: warni=
ng: process <br>
&gt; /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtp pid 65148 exit status 1<br>
&gt; Oct =C2=A08 03:15:17 &lt;mail.warn&gt; www postfix/master[1157]: warni=
ng: <br>
&gt; /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtp: bad command startup -- throttling<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I went to the port directory and did a deinstall/reinstall and all is =
<br>
&gt; well. Postfix flush cleared out the test emails I had queued up and no=
 <br>
&gt; errors in maillog. No changes to teh configuration files, it just work=
ed <br>
&gt; properly after a proper install.<br>
<br>
When you installed postfix via pkg, did you install postfix, or <br>
postfix-sasl?=C2=A0 The postfix port is flavoured:<br>
<br>
$ pkg search -r FreeBSD -x &#39;postfix(-.+)?-3.7.2&#39;<br>
postfix-3.7.2_1,1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Secure al=
ternative to widely-used Sendmail<br>
postfix-ldap-3.7.2_1,1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure alternative =
to widely-used <br>
Sendmail (with OpenLDAP and Cyrus SASL support)<br>
postfix-sasl-3.7.2_1,1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure alternative =
to widely-used <br>
Sendmail (with Cyrus SASL support)<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all">&gt;=C2=A0pkg query %o-%v postfix <br>=
mail/postfix-3.7.2_1,1<br><div>--=C2=A0<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_signature">Paul Beard / <a href=3D"http://www.paulbeard.org/" target=
=3D"_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div></div>

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