Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:55:12 +0700 From: Erich <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?] Message-ID: <1849552.ouQDGJxLWg@x220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra> References: <20120605201900.GB60388@hs1.VERBENA> <20120606150500.1345c639@scorpio> <20120607052739.GB12857@hemlock.hydra>
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Hi, On 06 June 2012 23:27:39 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 03:05:00PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then > > threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use > > 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I > > don't see that changing anytime soon. > I believe that real life is a bit different. > I have immediately installed FreeBSD on the last four or five laptops I I do this since 5.2 is out with all my purchases. I did the same thing with other machines in my environment. But I have to admit, that I have had to install twice Fedora because the notebook hardware was not supported at that moment of time. The second Fedora installation will go as soon as get finished my travelling or I get me hands on a new hard disk. Yes, I am in a location where you can enjoy life without any IT shop nearby which could even try to pull the money out of my pockets. What also has to be mentioned is the fact that people have to be more careful when shopping for new hardware with FreeBSD in mind. AMD based hardware is here of advantage at the moment. But it has other disadvantages. > purchased, and I get most of my laptops direct from Lenovo. While my The machine on which I installed Fedora is also from Lenovo. It would have needed a bit of more time to get X running on it. When I ran out of time, I installed Fedora which ran out of the box. Ubuntu did not work out of the box despite being certified. In this aspect, the full integration of Intel's graphic solution into FreeBSD will help acceptance here. > Significant Other has been installing Debian on her laptops, also Ah, learning English with FreeBSD. I did not knew of this phrase before. > acquired from Lenovo, she is probably going to start using FreeBSD > instead next time. I know several other people who install FreeBSD on My 'Significant Other' - you see, I am a fast learner - knows only FreeBSD. You should see her getting emotional when she has to work with Windows and things break in front of her eyes. She is no IT person at all and wants to use a computer with the ease of using a hammer. Of course, she never faces the problems maintaining a system. All she knows is that the machine is starting every time she needs it and continues to work until she switches it of. > Yes, my evidence is anecdotal, but I think your notions of the frequency > of FreeBSD use other than in a corporate setting are also based on > anecdotal observations, so we're even. I can tell you another real ironic story out of the cooperate world. A client needed a firewall. He did not believe that we could do it for him using FreeBSD and PC hardware. He bought then a 'real' firewall. You know what OS was running on this hardware? There was a nice price tag on this hardware too. Erich
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