From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jul 3 8:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from softweyr.com (softweyr.com [208.247.99.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AC637B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from localhost.softweyr.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=83bd04c6321bbbf488b70459e174b07a) by softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15HS3d-0000ht-00; Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:25:45 -0600 Message-ID: <3B41E3F9.53F9EEC6@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:25:45 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD, .Net comments - any reponse to this reasoning? References: <20010630174743.A85268@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010630173455.T344@teleport.com> <20010701032900.A93049@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010701132353.W344@teleport.com> <20010702152649.A18127@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010702180222.A2667@hades.hell.gr> <3B412280.ED210541@mail.ptd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thomas M. Sommers" wrote: > > There seems to be a hidden clause in the GPL, that requires anyone who > incorporates any GNU code in their program, or uses any GNU code to > build their program, or ships any GNU code with their program, to call > their program "GNU ". How long before Stallman > starts talking about "GNU FreeBSD"? There is no such clause in the GPL, and there is an explicit disclaimer on code produced by GCC. Comments like this are really not helpful; no knee- jerk reaction ever is. XEmacs is a somewhat customized version of GNU Emacs, reusing a lot of code written for GNU Emacs. If you don't understand the concept of "derived work", I'm certain there are a number of books and or web sites that can explain the concept to you. XEmacs is a work derived from GNU Emacs, while FreeBSD is not derived from GNU code. FreeBSD is shipped with a number of GNU tools because they are good, working tools that FreeBSD users and developers find useful and necessary. It is quite possible (and relatively simple) to produce a minimal running FreeBSD system that includes no GNU (or other GPL) code, which is needed by the embedded companies that are a significant part of the FreeBSD community. These companies typically use GNU tools, GCC, GAS, etc., to build their software, and quite often use other GNU tools like Emacs or XEmacs as well. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message