From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E7216A408 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B3F13C45E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1133526ana for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RTSpQ83QOX/skNiE3aTFIPdXlu/1xVfcm8g/znSirDbmv43Tj+k3qHshAwG9sJV9z7IZ1ON2KK0kCYSL9Lq9crngVmsJpgR8pF5ldXCeB/JUOBkScDzLTn8Jx74YXrRMH1CMdUMAs0zIk5Onpnr3XcIS7pIoZEdKj8a2kZnTw5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LwHOs03hWV6Bk6iqsNTfO+eIU8x27Ia8S04DUcpbrLRJfPxeY4WRFwRi5XzTnhFQKb8+DO0PA+SoEbhCFN900SvZ0sBlzI8EUgE52KR4jXx/qVaW1BROlBxilg9cVfz9UOFcfvoWG0Zbgh2/UbDiKABZESW0ggW0AxQ7hPqYs98= Received: by 10.100.138.2 with SMTP id l2mr2370953and.1175892479304; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:47:59 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ed Schouten" In-Reply-To: <20070406201749.GF6950@hoeg.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070405103708.GC842@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070405.140109.39240822.imp@bsdimp.com> <20070406142326.GC6950@hoeg.nl> <20070406153500.GE6950@hoeg.nl> <20070406201749.GF6950@hoeg.nl> Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:48:00 -0000 On 4/6/07, Ed Schouten wrote: > * Nikolas Britton wrote: > > The legacy bits don't upset me, what upsets me is sacrificing > > performance so we can support a minority of legacy systems. IIRC? we > > could recode the Kernel for SSE2 math if the processor was guaranteed > > to have that SSE2. SSE2 adds 214 new instructions to the existing x86 > > instruction set. > > But SSE2 isn't even used in kernel space, not even on AMD64. As far as I > can see, the only exception I can see is pagezero. Just take a look at > src/sys/conf/kern.mk. If it's not even possible to use SSE2 in > kernelspace on amd64, why would it be possible to do so on i386? > Doesn't Apple use SSE2/3 in the kernel? IIRC Mac OS X (Darwin) running on a white box PC won't even boot if it's missing.